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Ингеборг Швенцер
Статья была создана в рамках кросс-вики спама (еще семь национальных разделов за последние двое суток) и написана на очень плохом русском языке, я её быстро удалил. Автор всех этих статей, Участник:David.te, русским языком не владеет и утверждает, что написанную им статью в de.wiki по его просьбе перевели на русский язык. Дискуссия у меня с ним была нижеследующая:
Please stop deleting this perfectly valid article. Information on the encyclopedic relevance have already been provided: Prof. Schwenzer is one of the most influential commentators on the United Nations Convention on Contracts for the International Sale of Goods which constitutes the international sales law of Russia. Prof. Schwenzer also researches and publishes i.a. on Russian sales and contract law as part of the Global Sales Law Project. Moreover, this article appears to be of encyclopedic relevance in eight other languages. It is only beneficial for the Russian Wiki to have a translation of such article available. Since I do not speak Russian I would be grateful if you could - if possible - reply in English. Большое спасибо David.te 23:58, 29 октября 2011 (UTC)
- As far as you don't speak Russian, you could not be the author of the Russian text of this article. Therefore this article should be deleted anyway as a copyright violation. Андрей Романенко 00:02, 30 октября 2011 (UTC)
I am the author of the German version of this article and i have all the rights necessary for the Russian translation which has been provided specifically to be published on wikipedia. Thus, there is no danger of a copyright violation at all. David.te 00:08, 30 октября 2011 (UTC)
- Either the article was translated from German into Russian by a certain person whose copyright is violated by placing the article without mentioning him or her, or the article was translated with the help of some computer programm and therefore needs complete revision 'cause this kind of translation is always very rough. Somehow or other I don't think that the article meets our rules. As far as you have no possibility to read these rules and discuss the question, I guess you ought to contribute to those national sections that use the language you can follow instead of forcing cross-wiki SPAM to different sections. Андрей Романенко 00:18, 30 октября 2011 (UTC)
I am more than happy to name the person who provided the translation. I was asked by her due to her lack of technical expertise to put her translation in the Russian wikipedia. How and where shall I implement her name? Apart from that, I cannot see how a translation of a valid and useful article to the language of a country the article is relevant for can be considered spam. On the contrary, it should be considered a valuable contribution. I have no personal gain from Russian speaking people being able to access said information. Russian speaking people however do. So please stop blocking this article. David.te 00:25, 30 октября 2011 (UTC)
- As a contributor of Russian section you must be aware of our criteria of notability (which are not the same as in de.wiki or en.wiki) and prove the relevance of the article according to these criteria. As far as you can not read these criteria and refer to them in the discussion, you ought to abstain from contributing to ru.wiki. Андрей Романенко 00:32, 30 октября 2011 (UTC)
I have the impression that for some reason or the other you deliberately try to obstruct the publication of this article. First, you rely on insufficient encyclopedic relevance than you rely on language issues than you switch to copyright issues just to switch back to notability guidelines. Prof. Schwenzer is one of the most learned authors in the fields of the Russian international sales law. I submit that this is sufficient in terms of the notability guidelines of the Russian wikipedia. Please rebut this with specific reference to any notability guidelines which might not be complied with. Большое спасибо.David.te 00:40, 30 октября 2011 (UTC)
- There are sixteen points of notability criteria for the scientists in ru.wiki. You should exactly point out some of them which Prof. Schwenzer meets and give exact references to reliable independent sources which could prove it. That is all. Андрей Романенко 00:49, 30 октября 2011 (UTC)
- Just to put forward some criteria:
Prof. Schwenzer has published extensively in some of the worlds most renowned law journals. She also has published several books which are leading in their fields, first and foremost the Commentary on the CISG which is mentioned in the article. Specific references can be taken from here. Prof. Schwenzer also was dean of the law faculty of the University of Basel and president of the Center for Family Sciences. She was an expert for the Legal Committee of the German Federal Parliament. She has established some revolutionary concepts in sales law as well as in family law. All in all this should fulfil the notability criteria you referred to. David.te 00:50, 30 октября 2011 (UTC)
- Do you realise what is reliable independent sources? WHO states that 'She has established some revolutionary concepts in sales law as well as in family law'? Your link goes to own bibliography of Prof. Schwenzer, it is dependent source. Андрей Романенко 01:04, 30 октября 2011 (UTC)
- No need to scream or get impolite. I do not know whether you are familiar with academic writing. The reference to the bibliography of Prof. Schwenzer was of course not meant as a source itself. It rather provides for the sources. That is why it is called a bibliography. Further independent sources are here, here, here and here. David.te 01:18, 30 октября 2011 (UTC)
- Nope, these are not independent reliable sources. Read en:Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources. Андрей Романенко 01:43, 30 октября 2011 (UTC)
- If I understand the guidelines linked by you correctly, these are indeed independent reliable sources for what books Prof. Schwenzer wrote and for the fact that any of those books are held by up to almost 300 libraries worldwide which speaks for the importance of these books and thus for the academic relevance of Prof. Schwenzer. David.te 18:24, 30 октября 2011 (UTC)
- Also what I could just quickly find: Weyrauch describes her book Vom Status zur Realbeziehung - Familienrecht im Wandel as "monumental" and goes on on the "massive information management" as it covers "the whole field of family law" in 38 Am. J. Comp. L. (1990), 389. David.te 01:28, 30 октября 2011 (UTC)
Если исходить из списка публикаций и из поста декана юридического факультета Базельского университета, то соответствие ВП:УЧ вполне возможно. Но кто и по каким источникам (в статье нет ни одного АИ вообще) будет переписывать исходный текст - совершенно неясно. Если кто-нибудь, глядя на de:Ingeborg Schwenzer или en:Ingeborg Schwenzer, желает за это взяться - могу восстановить кому-нибудь в личное пространство для переработки. Андрей Романенко 01:43, 30 октября 2011 (UTC)
Итог
Желающих видимо не нашлось. Закрываю заявку. При появлении желающих, думаю, можно обратиться к любому администратору. Dmitry89 18:59, 16 февраля 2012 (UTC)
Удаление статьи ekspert89@inbox.ru
ekspert89@inbox.ru значимая энциклопедичная статья.
Итог
Не представлено доказательств энциклопедической значимости. Не восстановлено. Dmitry89 18:59, 16 февраля 2012 (UTC)
День демократической культуры и инфраструктуры, или день размежевания
Энциклопедичность данной статьи находится в уникальности социокультурного явления для случаев узкой идентификационной единицы с целью преодоления аномии. 95.25.147.217 15:21, 30 октября 2011 (UTC)
Итог
Не представлено доказательств энциклопедической значимости. Не восстановлено. Dmitry89 18:59, 16 февраля 2012 (UTC)
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